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uirapuru
uirapuru

posts: 51

12.29.2011 09:54   Quote
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Maybe a little provocation, just a little ;)

I lived as a capoeira instructor for few years. I gave up due some reasons, started to work as a webdeveloper and kept training and giving a classess but without pressure of all those problems when capoeira is your only business. I could sometime pay off the gym rent from my own money if those collected at capoeira was not enough, buy posters etc. It got me a lot more relaxed way of training.

But now I'm curious of your opinions - do you think that capoeira could really be a good, prosperous business? In which form?

- giving classes of traditional capoeira

- starting classess for children which I do not consider as a typical capoeira classess

- producing and selling (web?) capoeira gear

- giving fitness/combat/sport classes using your capoeira skills

- starting gym business, where capoeira would be your main but not only activity (find muay thai, bjj, yoga instructors)

- starting to blog about capoeira

- spreading capoeira as a new idea for life in orphanages, public schools, universities

- using capoeira in rehabilitation of injuries

- recording dvd's

 

any other ideas? anyone wan't to discuss it? how does it look in your country, how do you or your instructor manage to survive :) Why I think that someone could find it as a provocation? Because I know a lot of people that treat capoeira and everything with portuguese name as a holiness, something that you can just walk around, look, admire, learn just a little and that capoeira happen once and we should be thankful for it's existence and that's all.

I prefer to consider Capoeira as a great thing that happened in my life, but mainly it's a tool - to change mine and others life. I could use it. I can modify it a little to suit my own needs. Why not, it was changing all the time, it's keeps changing, why not to be inside of this development?

Someone could ask me about my previous posts in other topic, where I wrote about 'changes in capoeira'. I hope you see the difference, I do.

Would be great to discuss this topic.

lennon
lennon

posts: 332

12.30.2011 16:42   Quote
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Hey, heres my two cents for whatever they're worth. My first teacher very much treated capoeira as a business, as a consequence I think viewed the majority of their students as a means to an end, an that end was money and making them look good, to themselves and others. My current instructor is the opposite, genuinely gives a damn about all his students an treats money as a nessacery evil and has been known to run classes at a loss, which doesn't please his wife!There must be a happy medium somehow. But also I could be totally wrong here as I haven't been training very long an am far from the most blest capoeirista out there, however I suspect to truely make a living out of capoeira you have to appeal to the mainstream, if you do that something essential about capoeira would be lost. I know the recent discusion about the orishas said that the oldest orisha and all the concepts that go with him, ie wisdom etc etc presides over capoeira rodas. However a great part of capoeira is also in the malandro, Exu, the god of crossroads the trickster god, the wise guy.  That has no place in mainstream society, thats one for the edge people. The monty python an the holy grail the `you're all individuals' sketch covers it quiet well  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQqq3e03EBQ .

Anything that is a tool to change peoples lives is a vocation not a business, there is no profit in making people truely happy. If you did all the things on your list you could probably make a living, but you'd never be rich.

uirapuru
uirapuru

posts: 51

12.31.2011 16:07   Quote
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Anything that is a tool to change peoples lives is a vocation not a business, there is no profit in making people truely happy. If you did all the things on your list you could probably make a living, but you'd never be rich.

I would prefer more to discuss good models than 'is it good or not'. I'm sure about two things - capoeira and money needs responsibility - that's obvious I'm sure. But being a capoeira instructor is a normal job - so how to work, how to design your little "company" to be efficient in actual situation of capoeira? Lennon: good post though

ichabod
ichabod

posts: 27

01.04.2012 09:27   Quote
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I run a pretty successful capoeira business. I think that if more capoeira instructors paid more attention to running a professional business it would be better for capoeira in general. Students have a better experience and are able to take better advantage of the training. I truly believe that the better YOUR capoeira business is the better MINE will be, and ultimately the better my students will be as well. You list off a number ways to make some suplementary income off your capoeira business. Every successful capoeira teacher that I know does some of these things, but none of them are major sources of income for the studio, and none of them started with these other things. They started with traditional capoeira classes. Also, I don't distinguish classes for children as "atypical." We hold childrens classes, charge the same amount for them as the adult classes, and expect them to learn capoeira. I have never met a serious capoeira instructor that doesn't want their studio to be more succesful. (Keeping in mind that everyone's vision of success is different.) I have, however, met lots of instructors that are not willing to do what it takes to make the changes they need to in order to be more successful. A part of all of us wants to be successful or have lots of students because we are GOOD at capoeira; whatever that means. We've trained hard and continue to do so. The reality is that if you train capoeira you deserve to get better at capoeira. If you practice running a good business you deserve to get better at that. If you do both you deserve both.
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03.26.2012 07:41   Quote
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03.26.2012 07:54   Quote
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03.26.2012 07:56   Quote
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